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thelinuxshow@mailman.ibssnet.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.ibssnet.com/mailman/listinfo/thelinuxshow or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thelinuxshow-request@mailman.ibssnet.com You can reach the person managing the list at thelinuxshow-admin@mailman.ibssnet.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of TheLinuxShow digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: about TLS (Jeff Gerhardt (TLS)) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:40:37 -0500 From: "Jeff Gerhardt (TLS)" <jeff@thelinuxshow.com> To: thelinuxshow@mailman.ibssnet.com Subject: Re: [Thelinuxshow] about TLS Reply-To: thelinuxshow@mailman.ibssnet.com Hey folks, do not judge Dave Farning harshly. if you skip the religious comparisons, most of his comments were about "style." Everything he has said we have said to ourselves at one time or another; sometimes weekly. His comments were very constructive when you look at them as a whole. It is a legitimate picture of TLS. Further he has a right to his opinions, that is what being a part of a family/community like tls is all about. Families disagree and fight with regularity, but at the end of the day they care about each others lives. If you guys could only witness Arne and I when we have had a couple drinks and the conversation invariably turns to politics. You would be hard pressed to find two people as diametrically divergent as Arne and I when it comes to American Politics. We scream at each other and turn red (or blue) in the face. But at the end of the day we do recognize the importance that every individual plays in a community like ours. In other words we are as brothers. It has been a risk to keep the production values low, and although those values are much higher than the first several years on the air, we still, push them down in large part to add to the sitting around a pub table feel to the show. The thing with Doc is unavoidable, he is a busy gut and frankly, we are damned lucky to have a guy like Doc willing to spend as much time as he takes out of his busy schedule. If you would have told me back in 1999 when Doc first started calling in occasionally that 6 years later he was going to set aside 45 hours a year for the next 6 years I would have asked what kind of drug were you taking? It is a privilege and we will take Doc in any way we can. Although Dave did not talk about Eric, his participation has changed our style a great deal. It has gotten us pushed into the OS side of the OS v FOSS debate. For most of us on TLS this has been OK as a side effect, because most of us are already on that side of the debate intellectually. It is on the record that I think the GPL is a remarkable document and in a perfect world could be a single model solution to software development. But we are in a real world and not a perfect one. The work that people have done on the commercial side (whether we admit it or not) has saved Linux on more than one occasion. So reaching out and accepting alternative open source licensing schemes has been an important thing (in my opinion) during the evolution of the community. I have to admit that it was a risk letting Eric Raymond have free and unlimited access to the show; but we did so because whether you agree with him on a specific issue or not, he is filled with an enormous amount of information. Eric and I agree on lots of things and perhaps that is why I encouraged him to join us when he can. But, we do not agree on everything. If you do not know Eric personally and understand Eric being Eric, it could become impossible to do something like we have done as it would invite conflict. Eric is a straight shooter who says exactly what he believes. He apologizes for no opinion, and frankly why should he, political correctness is bullshit. So, OK so it is a shock to the system the first time or two it happens to be told by Eric that you are 100% wrong about something because of ......... You could react by fighting back or you could react by sitting back and listening. I find that the majority of the people in our community are very smart people and so it is a good idea to take the path of listening; as I do with Eric. Most of the time you learn something even if you still do not agree with them. Some of these "style" issues fall to what we were trying to create with TLS in the first place. We wanted a comfortable place where everyone could express their opinions (even if they are wrong) freely. Non of these issues of style though have any connection to the attacks I have been getting other than some of them may be motivating factors. These attacks are on a very personal level and I am sure that is why they have their strongest focus on trying to hurt my business. ********************************************************** Jeff Gerhardt- co-host of The Linux Show The Consummate Linux and Open Source/Technology Web Cast! www.TheLinuxShow.com ********************************************************** --__--__-- _______________________________________________ TheLinuxShow mailing list TheLinuxShow@mailman.ibssnet.com http://mailman.ibssnet.com/mailman/listinfo/thelinuxshow End of TheLinuxShow Digest |
