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thelinuxshow@mailman.ibssnet.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.ibssnet.com/mailman/listinfo/thelinuxshow or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to thelinuxshow-request@mailman.ibssnet.com You can reach the person managing the list at thelinuxshow-admin@mailman.ibssnet.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of TheLinuxShow digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: about TLS (David Farning) 2. Re: about TLS (Curt Howland) 3. Why I listen to THS--trust? (David Farning) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David Farning <dfarning@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [Thelinuxshow] about TLS To: thelinuxshow@mailman.ibssnet.com Reply-To: thelinuxshow@mailman.ibssnet.com "Jeff Gerhardt (TLS)" <jeff@thelinuxshow.com> wrote: Hey folks, do not judge Dave Farning harshly. if you skip the religious comparisons, most of his comments were about "style." Everything he has said we have said to ourselves at one time or another; sometimes weekly. I apology for the religious analogy. Maybe a Wizard of Oz analogy would have been better. There will always be those who want to open the curtains and those who want the curtain left in place. I was not intending to make a religious statement just a historical example of groups that have a vested interest in removing/retaining the status of the curtain. I sounds like we strongly agree on the fact the families fight and thats OK. How to get Doc, et.al. on the cheap. What you are doing works. But I am afraid that advertisers will be looking for something a bit more formal. For another poor analogy. Sitting at home coding, I usually were shorts and a tshirt. At a job interview I tend to where suits. TLS is struggling to do both at the same time. To us listeners, we are saying I'll code/listen naked if I what to. but, ad buyers are likely listening while sitting in their cubicles muttering to themselves about the lack of 'sex, drugs, rock and roll.' while looking for product placement opportunities. BTW I noticed that you don't have the archives for the latest expo up. If you need some one to go through and clean them up. I Think I can figure out how to remove the dead space and splice segments. Thanks Dave Farning --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Curt Howland <Howland@priss.com> Organization: Acolytes of the Goddess Priss To: thelinuxshow@mailman.ibssnet.com Subject: Re: [Thelinuxshow] about TLS Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:16:57 -0400 Reply-To: thelinuxshow@mailman.ibssnet.com Mr. Farning also points out that he "Love[s] the show, haven't missed an episode in over two years." Different things attract different people. I find the eternal Quest for Doc to be a wonderful ongoing sub-plot. Unlike contrived plot devices, this one is real. That makes it all the more interesting me. And if it ever gets actually annoying, for Doc or any of the other principles, it will change. It *can* change because TLS is individuals coming together because they want to. There are lots of little ways (VoIP is one example) to reduce the bills without limiting the spontaneity that, as you say, makes this a show of individuals instead of a slick robotic packaged pointlessness no matter how professionally done. Curt- On Wednesday 13 October 2004 11:08, Robert M. Stockmann was heard to say: > Hey thats what makes the TLS special. You even have proof that one > is listening to a _real_ live casting. People chit-chat about the > wheather, thats as simple as it gets. And thats how the TLS rises > above other, cold-hearted, cash-in here dudes, shows. -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:23:36 -0500 From: David Farning <dfarning@sbcglobal.net> To: thelinuxshow@mailman.ibssnet.com Subject: [Thelinuxshow] Why I listen to THS--trust? Reply-To: thelinuxshow@mailman.ibssnet.com I was thinking a lot about TLS today after jeff mentioned his frustrations running the show both financially and personally. I was thinking about why I spend 90+ minutes per week listening to the show. The answer comes down to TRUST. 1. I trust the the show will be interesting. Between the panelist and guests, rarely is a show boring. Some bits I could do without but over all interesting. 2. I trust the panels choice in stories. Because of the vast amount of information coming across my desk, the selection process of what get read is pretty harsh. I rarely go to information sites anymore. Instead, I glance through my rss feeds. If the article doesn't make the cut within the first couple of lines it doesn't get read. I just skip to the next one. I've noticed that while listening to TLS, because of it's linear nature, I tend to stick with an story. I've developed a trust that if the panelists feel the piece is interesting or significant then I too will likely get something from it. When I stared listening, I would listen during my commute. Now, I like to be sitting in front of my computer so I can follow the article links. 3. I trust the panel not to engage in vendor sports. I've gotten the feeling that the panel is above vendor sports, distro sports, gui sport.... Those sports are a waste of everyones time. Maybe someone can start a few new worthwhile sports; my distro has the fewest freaky idiosyncrasies, or my distro has the most cross compatible tool chain.... (better back off I feel a rant coming) 4. I trust the panel not to pander. How many times have we see the media back off from some story because of some special interest such as fear of offending a big advertiser or conflict of interest with a parent company? You boys are willing to piss anyone off. Probably not the not the most fiscally sound tactic but, at least I know you aren't going to pull any punches. I have no idea how you sell trust to advertisers to pay the bills but Good Luck. David Farning --__--__-- _______________________________________________ TheLinuxShow mailing list TheLinuxShow@mailman.ibssnet.com http://mailman.ibssnet.com/mailman/listinfo/thelinuxshow End of TheLinuxShow Digest |
